MediaWiki talk:AbstractWikiSuggestedWikifunctions.json

propose new suggested functions

• image thumbnail with alt text (f:Z36038)
• subject is instance of (f:Z36200) (duplicate) replaced by next item
  • entity is instance of class (f:Z32962)
• state location using entity and class (f:Z36983)
• specific property of subject is value from WD (f:Z36218)
• statement with reference (f:Z31921)
• paragraph from sentences (f:Z33068) the system is too slow for this
• sentence separator (f:Z35672)
• section title from Wikidata item reference (f:Z32145)
• subsection title from Wikidata item reference (f:Z33690) not for beginner articles
• main articles (f:Z36083)
• unordered list with item tagging (f:Z32179) replaced by the next item
  • list of Abstract Wikilinks (f:Z37840)

99of9 (talk) 01:23, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I'm basing this on factors including: ease of use, expected frequency, multilinguality, robustness, HTML output, and value. I also select against functions with string parameters which users try to fill in in their language (the image alt text is an exception - it is too good to leave off, but we should replace this when a wrapper with an auto-alt is made). Feel free to suggest others. 99of9 (talk) 01:27, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for putting together this proposal, though (as below) I don't think I agree with a few parts of it.
Simple analysis of each one:

1. f:Z36038
   • Multilingual: ➖ (requires an extra step)
   • Useful/Frequent: ✅
   • Permanence: ❌ for now (I'm not sure we want to proliferate images too much until we hear more about the possibility of captions)
   • Verdict: ➖
2. f:Z36200
   • Multilingual: ✅ (languages added individually)
   • Useful/Frequent: ❌ (I don't think it's important enough to take one of the suggestion slots, maybe if we can't think of anything better)
   • Permanence: ✅
   • Verdict: ❌
3. f:Z36218
   • Multilingual: ✅✅ (language irrelevant)
   • Useful/Frequent: ➖ (similar to above, but slightly more important as a general function)
   • Permanence: ✅
   • Verdict: ➖
4. f:Z33068/f:Z35672
   • Multilingual: ✅✅ (language irrelevant)
   • Useful/Frequent: ✅ (recommended pattern across the wiki)
   • Permanence: ✅
   • Verdict: ✅
5. f:Z32145/f:Z33690/f:Z36083/f:Z32179
   • Multilingual: ✅✅ (language irrelevant)
   • Useful/Frequent: ✅ (good for multilingual organization)
   • Permanence: ✅
   • Verdict: ✅

Therefore, I would support these changes, but swap in f:Z27868 and f:Z33457 and remove f:Z36200 and f:Z36218.

Thanks, Feeglgeef (talk) 02:18, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

I guess an extra unexplained reason I chose both f:Z36200 and f:Z36218 is that I think typical writer-editors want to be shown a way to make content, not just structure. I think the two additions you propose are a little bit too technical for newcomers to know when to use. They're very important, and I use them a lot, but I'd *rather* use them internally as wrappers on WF so that almost all content functions can be called directly from AW with an HTML return. I'll nominate one you can easily drop from my list: subsection title from Wikidata item reference (f:Z33690). Although it is permanent and solid, I doubt newcomers will be making articles with subsections for a long while, and by the time they are, they will know how to find functions on their own. 99of9 (talk) 02:34, 12 June 2026 (UTC)

This is also true. I guess it'd be nice to have suggested functions inside of each fragment (they appear when you don't have anything in the search box)? You'd have to have a separate list for each type. This might not be technically feasible, though, as I believe the Abstract Wikipedia team doesn't "own" the search box. Feeglgeef (talk) 04:37, 12 June 2026 (UTC)